england is depressing and full of chavs

I must admit, being a foreigner here in Denmark I often ask myself the same questions and face the same challenges. My living abroad was more a lesson for personal growth than it was for achieving happiness. I know many foreigners who are happy in the UK and live well. I planned to stay and study there with my family for six months before moving somewhere more sunny and exotic, (precisely for that injection of British 'culture' and 'opportunity' ), but was worried about the current Brexit climate. Stuffed peppers and aubergines with meat and rice. The UK hasn't had to pay for their education and they are not responsible for them until they become Brits. ), they ran taxi firms and corner shops etc. The weather can be a bit daunting, right? I guess the point of my comment is that I just wanted to tell you that you should have NEVER been treated the way you were here and I know that there is a massive percentage of brits that would agree. Same elsewhere. We have a better technological infrastructure than most of Europe as well. The Algarve, however, excellent place in Portugal. By the way, the United States is 121 on the Global Peace Index, below El Salvador. Very nice post! If you are willing to do it, you are better than the rest and are happy with the salary, then the job is yours. Brexit was a big factor, as was the general expense and weather. As an adopted child of Britain,I can totally relate to you. Because why would they?! UK is my dream after watching Harry Potter movies (call me silly or what), and then this trip just ruined it. Romanian and other Balkan foods are perfect mixes of Turkish, Greek, German and other Eastern European countries such as Russia, Poland, and so on. Britain is unrecognizable from its former glory. Sorry Brandon but I think you are missing the point because Cory is talking about how immigrants are treated . View history. The other problem is that this country has relied too much on purely service industry and literally no manufacturing. Where else will you find so much freedom of choice. I think people like this author who want to attack the UK and the British people should LEAVE PERMANENTLY as their self centred bigotry will never change. But spending all your life covering up your origins because of racism at school means you are living a lie. Going south helps, but the salaries are way too low to afford it too often. As to Philip de Boses' pathetic comment about the British being cowards - are you French by the way? I am originally from the UK, but have been living in Australia for the past 4 years and have been debating whether to make the move back to the UK due to wanting to be near family. UK for years has failed to create policies to protect its border, its benefits and health system to be abused by anyone and everyone. P.S. For the uninitiated, 'chav' is a (often derogatory) term for those young people who typically dress in tracksuit. I still remember talking to my husband the previous night, saying that the world is not that stupid. In the last three years a new filthy vocabulary of social class has emerged in Britain. Since 2008, Britain has culturally been in a self-inflicted spiral decline of crisis. In addition, I think there are other significant and perhaps more substantial factors that are playing into this hostility, namely, the rise of religious fanaticism, fundamentalism and its debate in Britain. Thank you for writing this article, it is absolutely spot on and details my feelings on living in the UK to a tee. If only life in the UK would be a magical world. Wow Cory! P.S. As a Brit, I can say that most of what you say is true. At first, many were not sure how insulting it really is until it was thrown about to anyone in tracksuits and a cap. That's a lot, isn't it? But let me tell you, though, you shouldn't see immigrants as a problem, but as a solution. It is the term Chav that is uncommon to me. This brings me to the last point, which is safety. I cannot accept hundreds of people commenting that "the best interest" of someone's kid is to die, without letting the parents try a lost battle, basically to protect the bottom line of the country coffers. After the Brexit vote, people started attacking immigrants, and even immigrant looking Brits. Some of the comments are impressively candid behind a computer screen. yum!). But I can assure you, we love our life in the North and we are seriously considering going further up, to Scotland. You may be from Scotland Wales or Northern Ireland which would make your question laughable. The Oxford English Dictionary defines "chav" as a "young person from the working class, usually without a high level of education." In 2004, it was announced as the Oxford Languages "Word of the Year" and entered the mainstream, appearing in documentaries and television shows. In the Balkans we also have pljeskavica or plecavia which is a kebab burger. Love this article all my feelings about relocating out of the UK are well articulated in this piece and as someone who lived in Scotland for 9 years and had all my kids in Aberdeen the I love Scotland part just feels like I finally met someone who completely gets me. You are so right about costs! So, the tribalism, is everywhere in the world and the UK is still one of the most open and tolerant countries in the world. Before, I used to think that no restaurant in the UK can match the quality and brilliance of the food we experienced abroad. I had to work lots of overtime to buy food and pay for my transport to work, I was working 65+ hours a week just to survive. I'm sure you will find your (almost) perfect city/country! It's not all political jibber jabber lies, it's equations and facts! The appalling racism, the hateful attitudes to foreigners, how difficult it is to find a (permanent, full-time) job, the unjust visa system - all of it is so difficult. I definitely feel you on this, although maybe not to the extent that you do as I am an American who lives in Prague and has lived in Wales and France. Not all immigrants and migrants are equal in their eyes. And thank you for contributing to British society and taxes :). We actually left two days before the Brexit vote. It always rains. The current North/South divide was very much a product of Thatchers efforts to limit worker rights. I was born in the uk to italian parents who came over in the 50s. Don't confuse friendliness with openness. Furthermore, I respect the people who in my mind, made Britain awesome (Like Mick Jagger, David Attenborough or Maggie Smith). Rent prices are high, and when you add utilities, the internet, council tax and all the rest, you end up with most of your salary gone. Wish us luck. One of Schmitt's rules of nation building was to always create an enemy OUTSIDE your country if you want to make your country better and stronger. I say keep traveling and find places that you can afford to have a decent life and by that I don't mean buying 'stuff' settle for much less but a good lifestyle. Do you have any questions or suggestions? How the resident described it: "This whole area feels like a crammed can full of rotten tuna with its variety of chavs and chavette." "Destroyed roadwork, mind-bogglingly ugly housing and severe lack of police will make sure you are both scared and depressed to walk around the 'handsome' town of Gillingham." We are both honest people, law-abiding citizens who pay taxes as individuals and as a company. It doesn't rain disproportionately at all. Pftiuu, you're funny. ), and the always fast pace. She tutted and was saddened by the crappy state of London. In Germany I have never felt discriminated against as a foreigner. It took me a couple years to psychologically recover from my idealistic perception of the UK.It took me a decade of living abroad to realise that it is true when people say the grass seems greener on the other side. Whilst change is always hard and my parents went through a lot to.come to the uk at least in the 50s it was controlled immigration. And the weather, sadly, it's true :(. I'm an immigrant to the UK - welll technically not right now as I'm yet in the midst of another visa application - mostly due to Brexit delays. Britain has come a long way, and whilst not perfect, is one of the most welcoming nations culturally-curious in the world. I wish we would have governments who encourage peace and education, as opposed to war. We're fed up with the extortionate rents for crappy flats, awful food (although the British think they have the best cuisine in the world now, but then, they think they're the best at everything), Brexit animosity towards foreigners, holier than thou, superior attitude, poor social rights for citizens (British retirees get the worst pension in Europe), expensive schools, expensive everything, really stupid TV, bad weather and the list goes on. What we're seeing now is a massive difference in the scale and effectiveness of these campaigns thanks to the pervasive nature of internet data mining and the use of techniques in machine learning to spot trends and correlations, coupled with lessons from the field of behaviourism, to weaponise the information. Where can you be yourself? Yes, Nicola Sturgeon's Scotland wants more immigrants. The Indian gentleman who gave up his citizenship to serve the Queen and the country forgets the hatred and racism in his own land of origin, where color of skin is a passport to success. How's that logical? Generations to come will read history books and laugh at how what was once "the Greatest Empire" has become a rainy, lonely island, with no power and no influence. Imagine not having power for your computer. British values Everyone did something about it. And this got me thinkingin fact, no! I see that you have just joined this forum and reading your answers you seem to be from the UK. I will certainly find it challenging, especially because I voted stay. And everything was perfect. And your seasons kick ass :) You can ski, swim, tan, walk. My wife and I can't wait to leave London next year. Perfect response. No country is perfect, but if you consider our history, museums, NHS, free education, the honesty of our police force and courts, business opportunities, freedom of speech, music, religious diversity, food safety (a huge problem in Asia by the way), lack of corruption, the countryside, quality of regulation, its military, animal rights, gender equality, gay rights, time zone, infrastructure, I still content the UK is one of the best countries to live in the world. The economy is still favourite for young entrepreneurs, hungry consumerists and investors. We have pies (a variety of them), we have the mighty Sunday dinner, the toad in the hole, the stew, sausages and mash, fish and chips. Do you mean British people with British passports who write articles about the UK? I actually ended up being extremely depressed. They are more racist Im afraid, albeit in a passive way. 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