Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. With his counselor, they decided he should try medication (Sertraline/Zoloft) for control of his symptoms. I didn't mention it at the physical, everything when fine. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. I think the individual is still at the MEPS stage of enlistment, and if I have understood him correctly, he is awaiting a medical waiver of sorts. She joined the army and just before graduating AIT she decided the Army wasn't for her (I told her not to do it, but did she listen? Can You Fix a Lie on Your SF-86 Questionnaire? He told them. Because he felt that his condition was very mild, and that it was part of his cousin's support program, he did not disclose this to his Recruiter, nor MEPS. When I went to MEPs, like most people, I had something to lie about. The main difference between them is that with LASIK, a corneal flap is created and replaced, and with LASEK, the top layer of the cornea is loosened, moved, and reattached. Though would documentation from a psychologist count as documentation from a doctor bc I dont know how familiar doctor at a hospital would be with something related to a different field of medicine. Anything that deals with flying can cause problems with some that have had Lasik. It happened to be depression and medication for it. Let's all throttle back a bit. Unless someone wants to send the mods proof of their M.D., and dig into medical history, you have no business declaring whether or not anyone's medical condition is non-serious, important, real, or anything else. One of those better to ask for forgiveness than permission situations it seems. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. Option 2: Lie. This includes lying by omission (leaving information out) and lying by commission (purposefully misleading). Do not attempt to interpret the questions your recruiter and MEPS will ask you--answer them as they are written. Do not encourage lying. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Long story short, I broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. I feel like this is a test so see if I won't bother to accrue some letters regardless and I'm not sure what to do. It allows MEPS to see your entire Electronic Health Record (EHR). A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . The cousin survived, and revealed she was deep in a gambling debt. I am going into the marines and have a contract to go to security school where you need a TS if you complete it. This isn't the place, and you aren't the expert. Do not lie, falsify, or hide information. Post by Cisco4711 January 12th, 2010, 7:10 am. I informed my recruiter of this incident and he told me not to mention it to MEPS because it won't come back in a police check being so recent. We lost quite a few, we were down to just a few of us by graduation. and was it a mistake for being honest at MEPS? You might think to yourself, "How could he not know that he needed to disclose this information?" So they just left that section blank and filled in the most recent appointment, making it look as if i never went in at all until just the other day. LASIK and LASEK are forms of corrective refractive eye surgeries, and both reshape corneas permanently. Good luck to you. So you want to start a career founded on integrity by lying? This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. There's been zero issues from the surgery and was absolutely necessary as I couldn't do more than 10 pushups without the wrist being in terrible pain. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. It is not the recruiters job to get you into the military, nor is it MEPS' job to disqualify you. I was planning on saying the wrist scar was from jumping over the fence as a kid or something like that. JavaScript is disabled. Learning has occurred - give it time to sink in. Option 2: Lie. If it had been correctly disclosed, he likely would have required a waiver and additional counseling before joining the Air Force. I have enough money saved to get the surgery, and I'm willing to wait the 180 days, but I don't know how available that waiver is, and my OR doesn't recommend doing anything that will create more hurdles for me to get past at MEPS, stating each hurdle decreases my chances of becoming an officer. You need to provide all documents not just a cover letter or info sheet. He was counseled, evaluated, and treated for EIA. They might nowWhy would you pose a question on a public website. How about this: Lying to join the military is a fraudulent enlistment and can result in a felony conviction. Your Recruiter will not be the one getting in troubleit will be you. Went to MEPS the next morning and everything was normal until medical debriefing. You will never become a United States Marine. He said that there is a good chance that I could lose my op 40. Is your condition a liability to yourself or others? We can't definitively know the answer to these hypotheticals, but we do know that the military would have never prepared them for it because they never were evaluated. For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. Then I met his boss; Sub-station commander. Dont lie. Know preoperative, operative, and postoperative . TL; DR Anyone with experience of LASIK eye surgery documentation sent to MEPS. So do you think the cost is worth the benefit? Having inconsistencies on your forms vs verbal answers is usually a major issue and will make it very difficult for you to get into the Marines now. He hadn't told them he had lasik. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. I was still in high school, wrecked my car and tore up my hand a few weeks later, was medically discharged :/. I'm certain they won't be. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. If you struggle from any of the conditions mentioned below, it is a good idea to speak with a local U.S. Military recruiter. A young man decided to join the Air Force and contacted a Recruiter. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. The suicide counselor for the cousin recognized that our young man was confused and worried from his family's recent crisis. It was not a mistake for being honest at MEPS, it was a mistake for being dishonest on the paperwork. Any advice? The young man did see another counselor in the same clinic, who identified several other stressors in his life, including moving away from home to begin college, worries about the cost of college, and a strong fear of public speaking. Press J to jump to the feed. No personally identifying information (PII). What should I do. He. I was in the same spot. Further investigation found she had a suicide gesture about 6 years earlier due to stress from a recently ended relationship, loneliness (had no friends for support), and academic struggles (failing some college courses). : r/USMCboot. I went through Air Force BMT in the lste 70's . So a few days later I went to MEPS but before we went we had to fill more paperwork out. Further, patients often don't ask what their diagnosis is--the patient is focused on their problems and not the administrivia in a medical record. I have ADHD and a prescription but function perfectly fine off the meds bc ADHD does not effect me much at all anymore. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Thanks! Tough but that is what it is when they find out. If I go back to my doctor and ask them to fill it out with the actual dates (even though its not exactly on the mark of '90 days'), will it be a waste of time to send back to MEPS, maybe with a statement attached? Lying on your SF-86 is an aspect of personal conduct, and deliberately falsifying or omitting information prevents investigators from getting the full picture of who you are and how you have conducted yourself thus far. No. Press J to jump to the feed. They said "No problem, we'll work around it." Its in your best interest to get through MEPS. However, they also discovered that the member received some depression counseling about 2 years before her MEPS visit, which she conveniently omitted. When I went to meps, I went into a room with a doctor, he made me strip down to my underwear and told me to slowly spin in a circle twice, so they will most likely notice any major scars. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tool+bag&defid=1959463. Come visit our wiki over in r/Navy. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Anyways I called him a few weeks ago telling him I am interested. I had lasik back in November and just had an enhancement to my left eye on Friday that I've been stressing about. ", he thought the answer was "No" because his cousin was the one getting counseling and he hadn't been diagnosed. ; and he asked my friend if he had ever smoked pot. Keratinous is NOT trifling; it is the major cause for corneal transplant in the US-a very expensive medical issue. You will not be able to live the Army values and lead Soldiers in the future. Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if its a no go or not . #12. Here is the Press Release. Because of his failure to disclose his medical history at MEPS and it's discovery while he was on Medical Hold, he was administratively discharged from the Air Force without completing BMT for Fraudulent Enlistment. Yes. By logging into your account, you agree to our. I don't suggest lying, but literally almost everyone I know of has lied about something. Free online program to promote the safety and well-being of military families. I even believed that my OR would appreciate my persistence in trying to get more info while he is on leave this week. For instance another friend went to meps and when he was doing the eye portion he was wearing contacts and the guy checking him didn't even notice. So we met a few days later and met his shadow that will be taking his place and filled out all the medical paperwork. 1. JavaScript is disabled. One of the worst things in the world is getting a fraudulent enlistment discharge after making it through 2 months of boot. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. Don't they pull your medical records, or did this happen after they checked? Unfortunately, she needed to go to sick call several times for persistent coughing. Then to delete your comments, simply click on your username on Reddit, go to the comments tab, scroll down as far as possible (hint: use RES), and hit the new OVERWRITE button at the top. Do not lie, falsify, or hide information. You should have had a post-op visit to measure refractions at 90 days post-op and then another 30 days after that visit.https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. Am I in danger like my friend said? If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. Yet I come on this forum and nearly every single hopeful has 4 LORs from all sorts of military personnel and powerful individuals. View Profile View Forum Posts View Blog Entries View Articles View Gallery Uploads Marine Friend . The girl with the suicide attempt would not be allowed to enlist today though. This video I react to a video that JTsuits made where a person was kicked out of navy Bootcamp due to them being medically unfit. If MEPS already okayed my medical documents, can they go back and try to get more info? The most popular bodybuilding message boards! They are looking for consistency". I swear I've met more dudes getting chaptered in the infantry for mental problems (like a few guys are mentally insane) than I ever imagined. His family supported the cousin and were part an intensive family counseling program for suicide prevention, however this had a strong impact on our young man. You must log in or register to reply here. 48.3k Members 151 Online Created Sep 13, 2012 Join Top posts december 6th 2015 Top posts of december, 2015 Top posts 2015 Seriously folks, stop with the medical determinations. They only care in the beginning because they don't want to waste money on you for "XYZ" reason for processing, no matter how bullshit it is. After a few more weeks, the doctors determined he did not actually have EIA, but was experiencing panic attacks and anxiety which subconsciously manifested as physical symptoms (a Psychosomatic Disorder). So its been about 2 weeks now and have been too scared to talk to him. Well today I reserved an 11x op 40 contract with plans to go to MEPS Tues/Wed. MEPS, short for Military Entrance Processing, rolled out a new system yesterday called MHS Genesis. Lying at MEPS is punishable by a $10,000 fine and 5 years in prison. They don't understand this stuff. We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. 48.8K. What Is The Biggest Lie You Ever Heard, Told Or Someone Told You? Also it is about what job that you are going to do as a Officer. Or should I be honest with my recruiter and if I cant get a waiver, lie at MEPS. So ur saying stay off the pills for 90 days and I doesnt come up?how? Lasik and Meps processing Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. I got disqualified to join the Air Force/military and I wanted to let you all know what was going on and how I was disqualified by MEPS.. Be the first to receive exciting news, features, and special offers from Bodybuilding.com! I got LASIK a few months ago, I know the minimum time from surgery to MEPs has to be at least 6 months. Lying at MEPS about medical or mental health history is a really bad idea with serious consequences, as stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign. You have runs risk that a Soldier could not live with. You were torn and want to be honest. It's sometimes better to keep your trap shut and deal with possible consequences later. Lying will. Obviously I will tell them about my felony charge. Below are abstractions of a true stories. What should I do if MEPS continues to request medical records that don't exist? Do you think the risk of getting shit bags and future suicides is worth the chance that one of them might be decent? How do you think they would perform in a deployment, or at a remote assignment like Turkey or Greenland, or if they married and their future spouse later divorced them? (if I do that then I would have to get all medical records I gave to them). The paper requests numbers from the pre-surgery, 90 days after pre-surgery, and a month after that. I don't want to waste the time of past professors and employers if it doesn't matter. Make it impossible to lie? Meps to Meps transfer of record/file, how long does it take? MEPS stands for Military Entrance Processing Station. Further, he won't be able to enlist nor commission in any branch of the military ever again. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Shoulda been a dishonorable. I think the chief issue is your pattern of distrust..and confidence in superiors. This experience also likely caused further stress and worsened his long-term mental health because he was suddenly out of a multi-year career, and wasted many weeks of his and the Air Force's time. Your Visit to MEPS All enlisted recruits are evaluated at MEPS Your recruiter helps prepare you for MEPS Interested in Officer programs? I wouldn't recommend it (even ignoring the important integrity aspects of your question. The medics at BMT requested and reviewed her civilian medical records to possibly determine the cause and any history of the condition. What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ? Lying at MEPS, HIPAA and security clearances. Its like a doctor told my dad he was going to need immediate knee surgery. Stupid kids want the power, the prestige, the money, the sweet benefitsthe military has a lot to offer. SSG Sean Donahue - Though your verbiage is way bolder than mine (my post on this issue is above) I fully agree with you!!!! Talked to a bunch of people about it and asked why does it say "no" if clearly should have been "yes". She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS. Let's Talk 3..e-mail: nathaliemunoz@live.comSubject "Let's Talk" you can send me anything you want from any topic!Previous LET'S TALK:1. https://goo.gl/jim. Hello, thank you everyone for this forum, it has been incredibly helpful. I've done the 1 month check and will do the 6, 3 months is coming up so I'll have to get that on the books. Instead, she had abysmal chances for waiver approval because she never got the additional examination needed for a waiver (plus lying isn't helpful to a case), so she was separated despite the recommendation of her MTI. Finally, he was incorrectly interpreting the questions from his recruiter and MEPS to what he believed his own history was. they'll find out if you need a Top Secret security clearance or if the issue comes up. The purpose of this script is to help protect users from doxing, stalking, and harassment. Because the military does not. Does MEPS pull your military medical records. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. They asked him if hadn't told them EVERYTHING and this was his last chance. (yes pretty much threw him and his boss underneath the bus). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I know a guy who lied about lasik because he didn't want to wait 6 months and nobody at meps found out. Quite a few of the guys in my squadron had a screw lose. He told me not to worry about it and say "no". It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. And if you don't know what to do, you have no business applying to the military. He might have been denied, or if he was approved, he would at least have been more prepared to handle the BMT experience. Don't even mention the scar unless they ask then keep it minimal "that was just from when I was a kid" if they ask more "yeah I was biking and fell" simple is good. Fraudulent Entry can get you kicked out of the military. My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. I also had to have my opthalmologist fill out a form called MEPS Refractive Eye Surgery worksheet.Look at MANMED regarding LASIK. You're assuming her recruiter didn't know With the rise of electronic medical records it'll become extremely hard to lie for meps. I was completely honest and I served honorably for 8 years. Never saw him again. As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion. I'm guessing you're done. 03-10-09, 06:54 PM #10. redsox1804. I told him "no" because I did disclose everything with him if asked. After boot camp is MCT where all Marines go regardless of MOS. KUDOS! For every one of these little vignettes there is an outstanding Soldier, Sailor, Airperson or Marine that said "No" when asked, and is out there doing outstanding shit. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/, https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. When we started to fill out similar questions with the recruiter I started saying 'yes' on some of the questions. What will you do at PI or San Diego when the withdrawal symptoms hit? Always good advice. If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. why worry about it if it becomes a problem deal with it then. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Not sure why I didnt expect this or was told this. I realize you were told to lie, but you should have refused. Know how to find the right doctor. Personally, go find another doctor that is ex-military that can weed through the BS. Did I Lie at MEPS??! And yet when the recruiter tells them to lie so he doesn't have to do paperwork they always believe him that no one will find out. And you'll be sidelined forever. According to evidence presented at his trial, the Jacksonville military veteran was designated in July 2000 by the Department of Veterans Affairs as 100 percent disabled for bilateral blindness. Pretend now that either of these people had completed BMT without their prior Mental Health history ever evaluated. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I would say lying at meps is a low risk high reward type of deal. We all come to this website for information and most of us have been corrected on our approach by the main contributors in some fashion. There are many specific medical conditions that may disqualify you from joining the U.S. Military. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. Breaking subreddit rules may result in a ban from r/newtothenavy and r/navy. Seems ridiculous that I had the surgery over a year ago and this is the only thing stopping me from getting processed in MEPs. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. As long as you werent taking the pills within 90 days it wont pop up so just dont talk about them. Forgetting the medical side of this for a moment You must log in or register to reply here. She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS, who would have requested a waiver, and she would have had a chance at a waiver by doing some additional evaluation. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. My friend says I might be in danger for being honest. Own this and you may be surprised, if nothing else you will have evolved as a man. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didnt they found it at meps . Cookie Notice I had the surgery in august of 2014. Any help would be appreciated. May 6, 2020. If you lie about it at MEPS, and get Lying at MEPS, HIPAA and security clearances. My 90 day period was more like 2 months, because that's when they called me back for a followup, so it wouldn't have made sense (distance traveled and financially) to go back a month later for a '90 day' followup. In my experience meps isn't that deep of a medical check and it's fairly disorganized. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Not disclosing information at MEPS - Advice Needed. !, Military Life and Issues, 8 replies Lying scumbag Johnson on MSNBC lying-no challenge from host, Elections, 31 replies Just something to think of. First, you didn't believe your OR so you called his boss who said the same thing, and then you come here looking for validation of the opposite advice. This was the man who my friend had confessed his pot usage to when we first showed up a month ago, but now my friend lied to him and he accepted the lie without hesitation. Though my friend told me his exam consisted of a puff eye test, exam for glaucoma screening. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. One guy kept getting ahold of his prrsonal items somehow and got caught playing a saxophone in the barracks. Overall, I have to say that I am troubled by the way you appear to be perceiving and interacting with the recruiters. Lying will. I got both of these surgeries in order to be a seal, and would fucking hate if the reason I can't get in are the very surgeries I got in order to qualify for training. Haven't met a personw ho didn't lie. My ex, who was batshit crazy, probably Bi-polar and was on meds most of her teen life lied about it ALL at MEPs. The forms tell you that you must disclose it. and our Never got caught. After a long conversation with my doc he said there is no way for them to find out unless you tell them. 2. Delayed my ROTC scholarship for a semester, biggest pain in the ass. So I left his office and my recruiter took me to up to the hotel. What's the deal? I got disqualified for disclosing a medical issue. If they ask, tell them it's a scar from when you were a kid. He also said that as long as I take care of it before I leave, I'll be fine. Applicants often need further evaluation or counseling before they can live the rigorous and stressful military lifestyle. Maybe from 2001-2007 or so she could. Looking at your previous 11 posts it looks like you might be joining the Marines. Press J to jump to the feed. A young woman wanted to join the Air Force and went to MEPS. They don't understand how a broken leg or asthma when they were a kid can come back, they don't understand how mental issues are severely exacerbated under stress-- because they think their phone breaking is stress, and they dealt with that just fine. from USMCboot. He hadn't been "prescribed" an anti-depressant because he only took some medicine on a short, trial basis. I got to certain sections and told him I have to say "yes" to these questions and I knew how important they were. My experience: I told the truth about something that should have been a non-issue. 1) I have been told by my Officer Recruiter that I do NOT need any Letters of Recommendation for a package. Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. Also, while you wait for a reply from a subject matter expert, try using the search feature! I swear I was born in the wrong generation. Disclose EVERYTHING. First, you are the one liable WHEN you get busted lying. 73. All Rights Reserved. After about 2 months on the medication, he discovered that the side-effects of the medicine were worse than his symptoms and stopped taking it. The suicide counselor recommended he also consider seeing his own counselor. My dad said hell no, lost 60lbs and 6 years later has had zero knee pain. Do you really think your little writeup is going to convince anyone dead set on lying? What I love is everyone parrots RECRUITERS ALWAYS LIE. Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. I know I have to be able to function without medication and I can, but have not been consistently been of the medication simply because of the existence of standardized tests should I lie to my recruiter and say that while I have such a prescription I have been off it for atleast the minimum time period states or should I be honest because in reality it doesnt take a long time to get off a medication completely atleast for ADHD medications which are stimulants and what they dont know wont hurt them because my ADHD does not really effect me much at all anymore. In hindsight, had I known this disaster of 'hurry up and wait' would happen I would have waited another month to check in. Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. or "Do you have a history of depression? They determined she only had typical "walking" pneumonia, meaning she would just be held back for 1-2 weeks and join another BMT flight to graduation. I think the lesson here is not to tell people to disclose everything, becausethey won't. Integrity is what you do or how you act when no one is watching. I was honest at MEPS. On the way to Meps we got a call from the Chief who asked us if we had ever been asked to lie, had criminal charges etc. lie at MEPS? If you would like to protect yourself, add the Chrome extension TamperMonkey, or the Firefox extension GreaseMonkey and click Install This Script on the script page. Do not attempt to interpret the questions your recruiter and MEPS will ask you--answer them as they are written. Glad to hear eye stuff is routine. My recruiter went the other direction, really stressed "Make sure you disclose EVERYTHING". It is best that you speak with your recruiter and explain that you failed to mention it as your doctor told you it was not an issue. Some people really really want to join, and they'll try anything. Should I lie at MEPS and if so will I likely get caught? 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