[30], In the 12th century, the Arab Ja'alin tribe migrated into Nubia and Sudan and formerly occupied the country on both banks of the Nile from Khartoum to Abu Hamad. If anyone has evidence of at least one dead body having been found in the recesses, Im open to change my mind. It sure is something to ponder over and come up with a hujja to explain. Heavy contact with Romans resulted in us having a pretty decent record of its territories and people. And We saved those who believed and had Taqwa. There are countless artists, pundits, and celebrities who mock Allah, His Messenger (pbuh), and Islam. And Ad and Thamud-it must be clear to you from their dwelling places! They may have even intermingled to the point of losing any distinction along ethnic lines as there is no good reason or evidence to preclude the idea that the Thamud also ventured and lived in Petra and the surrounding areas. Yusuf Ali. We cannot preclude the notion that structures that are completely different from what has been found so far, will be found in the future. Who can bring me down to the ground? If the Nabateans carved out the structures on the hills and mountains of Petra and Median Saleh, as the Christians allege, then both the Quran and the Bible are in error, which I dont agree with. Some of these questions were sincere, but most of the time they were just trying to trip him up. Here our discussion lies around the location of the thamud people and the houses/tombs they carved out of the stones and mountains. It may very well be that during the time of the prophet, certain structures were still apparent to them that are now hidden due to natural occurrences, such as earthquakes, accretion of sand and erosion with time. If not, then why do we need to find the remains of Thamud? 5. Pickthall And (the tribes of) A'ad and Thamud! There is no possibility that these were houses. It makes it specific but is not related to time. you who say to yourself, These people incurred the wrath of God and were destroyed. Guiding Romantic Desire: Wisdom in the Sexual Ethics of Islam, Custodianship of the Right Hand: Concubinage, Rape, and Sexual Slavery in Islam. [11] An important exception is a temple at al-Ruwfa in northwestern Saudi Arabia, built by the Thamd themselves in the 160s CE. They also fell to idol-worshipping. Sargon II (d. 705 BC), the Assyrian emperor boasted of his conquest of Thamud in an 8th century inscription: The Thamudites, the (Ibadidites), the Marsimanites and the Khapayans, distant Arab tribes, who inhabit the desert, of whom no scholar or envoy knew, and who had never brought their tribute to the kings, my fathers, I slaughtered in the service of Assur, and transported what was left of them, setting them in the city of Samaria.. Allah doesnt need you. Qur'an and Hadith on Thamud and their Dwellings Abu Rahma / March 22, 2016 It is argued that the Qur'an and the Prophet () made an error in history and facts [1]. When they cut the hamstring of a female camel that God had sent down for them, despite the prophet's warnings, they were annihilated, except for Salih and his followers. The Quran mentions Aad as successor to the people of Noah (Q 7:69), and Thamud, as successor to Aad in turn (Q 7:74). It becomes rather implausible that a people who a had a law against building a house, would then start constructing breathtakingly massive structures from the rocks of the mountains themselves. [17] The Muslim governor of Egypt encouraged the migration of tribes from the Arabian Peninsula to Egypt to increase the Muslim population in the region and to strengthen his regime by enlisting warrior tribesmen to his forces, encouraging them to bring their families and entire clans. No, not at all. 7. By not on the surface, I mean that they did not exist like a proper city or open to any passer by and were deep inside some unvisited territory. We do not believe in the Bible the way it is today. Question:What is the correct explanation for the P --* _ . JazakAllah. Or there fallen down relics are still better than you houses now 3. or there fallen down relics show they are/were better than you 4. I guess it can be said that the Nabataeans can be considered one of the nations succeeding the people of Thamud. But the inscriptions in Lihyanite script and some recently discovered archaeological vestiges are evidence for human settlementas early as the 3rd or 2nd century BCE. After giving birth, the camel drank all the water from a well every two days and then produced enormous amounts of milk for the people. Required fields are marked *. (2). The Thamud were scientists. And as for Thamud, We showed them the path of truth but they preferred blindness to guidance; so the Sa`iqah of disgracing torment seized them because of what they used to earn. We have no concrete evidence that Nabateans were destroyed. As for their dates, I do not know and it is not necessary that they would have to be very close to each other. Those people rejected their prophets and did not follow the correct way and Allah did destroy them. These people were very wealthy and wielded great power. This also makes it clear that the people were punished. Summary: The cravings that Quran says were done by Thamud were in Wad l-Qura. 27:52 means that their dwellings were destroyed but visible to the onlookers and the Prophet () and the Sahaba saw them but we cannot see them today "[22] The stone constructions of Hegra are actually mostly from the Nabataean period, especially the first century CE. They were Giants and so powerful. Al-ijr is now a vast plain, interspersed with hills into which what looks from the outside like houses or tombs have been carved. The Thamud demanded and received a sign from Allah. What timeline do you think thamud and AD and noah came because they would of have to be closed together and if noah nation was the first to commit shirk then they will have to of come 10 thousand bc because of the gobekli temple in Turkey because they commit shirk 9500 bc. The Arabs on the Iranian side of the Gulf tend to speak a dialect much closer to Gulf Arabic opposed to the Khuzestani Arabic which is closer to Iraqi Arabic. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. But the buildings of the Aad are like Lego blocks compared to the Thamud. Are you telling us to change our religion from our fathers relgion? According to Saudi-archeology website, an academic website aimed at archiving the rock images and providing archeological information on them, the structure may have been used for holding sacred feasts. We have a good perspective of the size of these supposed tombs in this picture, as the faade has been destroyed. God sent down a milch camel as his sign, and Salih told his countrymen that they should not harm the camel and allow it to drink from their well. There was a long period of royal authority and sedentary culture. (LogOut/ of 'Ad and Thamud by name. We should look at the original Arabic for word though to fully understand. There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him! It is not a revealed book any more and hence, we are not bound to believe in a few thousand year old civilization our scriptures do not mention any such thing. Thus, at the end, the people of al-Hijr are mentioned. you will be utterly despised. The fact that these structures are still around today, after nearly 4000 years is a testament to their quality and design. Instead, the camel is killed by a certain "accursed Amar", and the camel's foal stands upon a rock and curses Thamud, leading to the tribe's annihilation except for a single lame woman who is spared to spread the message of the destruction. And remember when He made you successors after the Aad and settled you in the land, [and] you take for yourselves palaces from its plains and carve from the mountains, homes. Now today, Thamudic ones have not remained and what is preserved are the Nabatean ruins, Assalam alikum I think what the people are trying to say is if I got this right is that the hadith says dont enter the homes houses of thamud so the verses makes it sound like the houses were still standing tall back then and some non muslims use this hadith to say the muhammad peace be upon him thought that these houses that were built by the thamud but that he got it wrong because these tombs were built by the nabtions not thamud and Ibn Kathir thought the same this is what I think they mean. When some one has a keen desire to understand logically or has questions, there is nothing wrong I think. p.190. [Quran 27:45]. The Targum is,thou art like to an eagle that dwells in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is in a high place;this they were proud of, thinking themselves safe, which deceived them; hence it follows: that saith in his heart, who shall bring me down to the ground? 1995. International Dictionary of Historic Places. [2] The Quran endorses this fact; they were not outright destroyed and the believers survived: Then look! 'Ad and Thamud are closely connected by both Islamic and pre-Islamic sources. Most scholars interpret this as an earthquake. They are related to Thamd only in being much later structures sharing the same geographical location. For the town in Yemen, see, sfn error: no target: CITEREFEph'al1984 (, "Al-Hijr Archaeological Site (Madin Slih)", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thamud&oldid=1132970365, This page was last edited on 11 January 2023, at 16:00. these 2 ayat that have been repeated elsewhere are a beautiful reminder of the lessons to be learned and ibra from the civilizations that have long gone and their signs remain for those that follow and there are many such examples of these very beautiful and instructive verses. Thats it. Secondly, 15:81 makes it clear that they denied a Messenger sent to them and were destroyed as a consequence. Ive discussed this more below. That they were better than you in building these fallen down relics 2. We must look at them, ponder over the signs of Allah and take heed. [3] Nigel Groom, Frankincense and Myrrh, A Study of the Arabian Incense Trade, Longman, London and New York; Librairie du Liban, Beirut, 1981, p. 189, pg. Aben Ezra thinks that caph, the note of similitude, is wanting; and that the sense is, thou thoughtest that Mount Seir could secure thee, as they that dwell in the clefts of a rock: whose habitation [is] high; upon high rocks and mountains, such as Mount Seir was, where Esau dwelt, and his posterity after, him. We have no firm textual evidence as to where they went, but their pattern of rock carving survived for millennia among their successors in the area such as the Nabateans, the Dedanites, the Lihyanites who supplanted the Dedanites in Dedan in the last century BCE and 1st century CE and others. The Thamud (Arabic: , romanized:amd) were an ancient Arabian tribe or tribal confederation[1] that occupied the northwestern Arabian peninsula between the late-eighth century BCE, when they are attested in Assyrian sources, and the fifth century CE, when they served as Roman auxiliaries. al-Hijr, the second most important centre of the Nabataean empire, is the title of the 15th chapter of the Quran. [5] This entire passage has been sent by Waqar. [24] These tribes advanced in large numbers all the way to Morocco, contributing to a more extensive ethnic, genetic, cultural, and linguistic Arabization in the region. Eph'al instead speculates that the Thamd and other Arab tribes may have made arrangements with Sargon to trade in Samaria, which Assyrian historians embellished as submission. or, if he should, he can never take it, or take me from hence, conquer and subdue me. (LogOut/ Sahih International. from there I will bring you down, Also what time do you think noah ad and thamud came. 9. Further confirmation of their service under the Romans, comes via a late 4th (or early 5th century) military document Notitia Dignitatum, which clealy mentions two cavalry units of Thamud, one serving in Egypt and the other in Palestine. The Middle verse in chapter (11) of the New Testament says:" He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." The Middle verse in chapter (11) of the . The Story of Adam (The First Man) _ part 1. The absence of evidence here is no evidence of absence. And this advancement led to a stratified society of haves and have nots. And perhaps, over the generations, these people developed their own magnificent society with its own special hallmarks and characteristics. And their responses reflected their advancement in knowledge. Or just left relics in land 6. So bring on whatever punishment you say is coming to us.. Think over this in detail. their country was called Arabia Petraea, the rocky; and their metropolis Petra, the rock: Jerom says that they that inhabited the southern part of the country and dwelt in caves cut out of the rock, to screen them from the heat of the sun: or, thou that dwellest in the circumferences of the rock F16; round about it, on the top of it, in a tower built there, as Kimchi and Ben Melech. The earliest known mention of this new 'Thamud' in historical sources is is a 715 BC inscription of the Assyrian king Sargon II, which mentions them as being among the people of eastern and central Arabia subjugated by the Assyrians. Moreover, they cultivated fertile land and gained lots of benefit from it. It doesnt speak about being touched or untouched. These include Sunni Huwala and Achomi people, who compromise of both fully Arab and mixed Arab-Persian families. Adites conquered Iraq and Syria mixing with the Akkadians and Amorites( They are known as the people of Us, When actual tribe of ad perished Prophet Hud pbuh was with the banu thamud who are from him, they livedfrom North Arabia to greater part of Syria mixing with the Assyrians . You built mansions on the plains and hewed the hills into houses[7:74]. The Arabs then could see Thamud dwellings but we today cannot. The same can be said about 7:84 where Allah SWT is telling us to SEE the end of Sodom and Gomorrah. God then destroyed the tribe, except for Salih and a few other righteous men. Satan made their actions seem good to them and so debarred them from the Way, even though they were intelligent people. Because inscriptions cannot be relied upon with 100 percent certainty, its possible that the inscriptions are Nabatean while the structures are not. Shaitan (Satan) made their deeds fair-seeming to them, and turned them away from the (Right) Path, though they were intelligent. [28] The shout, which is an extremely loud sound, might have caused the earthquake, according to certain scholars. The Thamud are mentioned in contemporary Mesopotamian, Classical, and Arabian sources, including in inscriptions in a temple erected in the 160s for the god lh, by the Thamud themselves. Can it be said that the Thamud made wells and their successors i.e. Only Allah knows if this scenario really happened. They are called "Skulls" because it is thought that the skull is the most important part of the body, and the majority of Arab tribes are descended from these major tribes.[37][38][39][40][41]. I would be interested in your response to my other points as well. The Edomites and Thamud Several broken columns in the ruins of Wadi Ramm have been interpreted as the lofty pillars associated with Iram in the Quran. But before we get to that, lets analyze their responses. He who had faith said (to Pharaoh and his company): O my people, I fear for you the likes of the day of the confederates, the likes of the fate of the people of Noah, Ad, and Thamud and those after them. The Thamud were the successors of the Aad. Are these tourist sites now identified at Madian Saleh the same as those we see discussed in the saheeh ahadith during the Tabuk expedition or is that a different location because these sites are identified as built by Nabataens and not Thamud and are considered much later than Thamud people (if we consider the finds to be absolutely authentic that these are Nabataens who built them. When God permitted the prophet to do this, some of the tribesmen followed Salih, while many powerful leaders continued to oppose him. Thirdly, the hadith you quoted isnt the only hadith on the topic. According to the Quran, they were hit by a blast that destroyed them. you who live in the clefts of the rocks[a] (41:13) "Thamud are an ancient Arabia, tribe or group of tribes that seem to have been prominent from about the 4th century BC to the first half of the 7th century AD. But the Thamud were more nuanced in their rejection. The Bible Thus, from the aforementioned verses we have gleaned the following: 1. It must also be kept in mind that not all of the structures have been found as of yet. Jumping the gun, 2. What the visitor sees there today are hewn hills; no mansions remain on the plain. Please refer to the appropriate style manual or other sources if you have any questions. [34][35] Tribalism is a significant characteristic of Arab population in Khuzestan.[36]. 11. What? So Ad lives in a mountainous country with lush valleys; and they made altars on the mountains. But the Thamud let their education and knowledge go to their heads. In the worst cases, they may even go so far as to challenge Allah. Again the burden of proof is on us that this was the case. These prefixes ignored in the alphabetical ordering: Al, Al-Bu, Albu, Banu. This is not but from the customs of the former peoples and we will not be punished.Chapter 26, Verses 136-136. These verses can be found in multiple books, we will focus on Obadiah and Jeremiah. The Aad werent about that. Are Hadiths Anti-Semitic? Let us know if you have suggestions to improve this article (requires login). As Suleyman Dost observes, The Qurns reference to rock-cut dwellings fits the picture perfectly with the exception that these carved niches do not seem to have functioned as living areas3, Returning to textual references, Diodorus, a Greek historian writing in the first century BC, mentions a group called Thamoudnoi in North-Western Arabia4. 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Prior to the Muslim conquest of Egypt, Egypt was under Greek and Roman influence. By declining the noun Thamud or not, it means the region or the tribe. Accordingly, the Thamud were a powerful and idolatrous tribe living in Hegra, now called Madin li, the Cities of liin northwestern Arabia. Ok thanks jazzakkallah but do you think the verse can be in past tense and the verse you quote above in your article 89:9 is it talking about homes on the plains or homes in mountains and the verse makes it sound like they could see these houses in the mountions so it makes it sound like this verse is saying the tombs are thamud dwellings so how do we explain this verse or is it just saying they used to do that like ad used too do pillars in the verse before or is that verse saying as well they could still see those pillars jazzakkallah sorry to keep bothering you. Then remember the favors of Allah and do not commit abuse on the earth, spreading corruption. [7:73. This generally means that despite very weak appearance now they one were very well established from the remanats. But the fact that they spitefully killed an animal that had done them no harm and for no good reason is proof and a sign of their evil. Both. Some Muslims have mistakenly equated sites such as these with the first Thamud of the Quran, but it is believed by archaeologists that a different group of people called the Nabataeans, in fact, built some of these sites. Beni Hassan defeated both Berbers and Black Africans in the region, pushing them southwards to the Senegal river while the Arab tribes settled in Mauritania. And when they did that, Allahs wrath came on them. Abul Ala Maududi. In sum, missionaries and polemicists contrive an accusation against the Quran by obscuring, deliberately or not, the meaning of Thamud in the Quran and its relationship to the complex array of archaeological sites in Arabia. (2/380-381), The inscriptions of al-Hijr are the remnants of the Nabateans. Having failed to save his people, Salih warned that they would be destroyed after three days. 12. Just leave her alone. [21] Syrians who belonged to Monophysitic denominations welcomed the peninsular Arabs as liberators. So nothing availed them [from] what they used to earn. Encyclopaedia Britannica's editors oversee subject areas in which they have extensive knowledge, whether from years of experience gained by working on that content or via study for an advanced degree. Modern historiography "unveiled the lack of inner coherence of this genealogical system and demonstrated that it finds insufficient matching evidence".[14]. Large numbers of Bani Rasheed are also found on the Arabian Peninsula. If they were made for dead bodies, it stands to reason that we should find at least one dead body in them. Though one could argue that they knew of Salih and hence Allah could hold them responsible, but this is speculation. The ruins were identified by the Prophet (s) as belonging to those who wronged themselves, without ascribing them to the very first tribe of Thamud. [15:80-84], , Abdullah b. The coloring of (sedentary culture) established itself firmly. Being Dutiful to Parents: Islamic knowledge, The Door to Eternal Paradise: Islamic knowledge. Perhaps these survivors were Prophet Hud (AS) and his followers. So, basically during the time of the Prophet (), their remains were not on the surface and only some of them were visible. [9] The Thamd also joined the Roman armies as auxiliaries, and the Notitia Dignitatum mentions two units of Thamd warriors serving the Roman Empire, one in Egypt and the other in Palestine.[10]. They wanted to prove that (scientifically, of course) that Salih was not telling the truth. Of course, only Allah knows the truth. The leftover of Ad were taken and built over by Thamud. The Middle verse in chapter (25) of the Noble Quran talks about Noah's people, Ad (the people of the prophet Hud) and Thamud (the people of the prophet Salih). What do we intend to get out of the statement that they were more in number and strength in what they left behind. Point by Ismail about the order of the messengers from earliest to latest also is something to ponder over and maybe the people of the Hijr are different from the Thamud. Suhih Bukhari_ Book of _ Virues of Al-Quran : THE FIRST PILLAR OF ISLAM: THE MUSLIM PROFESSION O _ ( Istighfar & Tawbah Authentic Dua & Dhikr: What Is the Status of Women in Islam? . 3 Southern Europe. How destroyed do you think the buildings were and does the hadith mean that there inside were not destroyed or could of they been destroyed as well or not. In light of these points, in my opinion the only reasonable conclusion is one of the following: 1) That the dwellings of Thamud were destroyed some time between The Expedition of Tabuk and today. 4. And God knows best. According to the Islamic tradition, the Thamd were warned by the prophet li to worship Allh, but the Thamd stubbornly refused and as a result were anni. However, that does not solve the dilemma of who carved out the hills and mountains in Petra because the Edomites existed prior to the Nabateans, who according to the Christians were the ones who carved out the mountains and hills of Petra and Madian Saleh in 1st or 2nd century B.C. It had no written law, but the tribal leader played the role of ruler. They were craftsmen. Although, implausible, but not impossible. Compounding the confusion is the fact that the tribal name Thamud is applied today to a broad section of different peoples throughout history, not only to those mentioned in the Quran. They also could have written inscriptions on the many structures that already existed. You would only make my loss greater. The Thamd are infrequently mentioned in contemporary indigenous Arabian sources, although two Safaitic inscriptions carved some time between the first century BCE and the fourth century CE refer to "the year of the war between Gm and the tribe of Thamd [snt rb gm l md]". As I mentioned in our discussion on your post regarding Gog and Magog, I was very interested to read your reply to the missionary accusation regarding Thamud, because the argument seems to be rather recent and it seems to at least on its surface have good argumentation and hence we as Muslims must develop countermeasures. Thamud were destroyed Dont ignore them. It is estimated by some historians that Moses (s) lived around the 16th century BCE. Also, the Prophet () did in fact mention the dwellings in a separate hadith. Chaldeans formed when actual tribe of thamud perished so you are not correct . Traditional Quranic commentaries assumed that they were a South Arabian people, but it turns out, they had their base in Wadi Ramm in present-day Jordan. 63-65. But the Thamud cut its hamstring or otherwise wounded it. I am sure that is not the intention but it may appear like that. A similar narrative can be found in Jeremiah 49:16 I feel there may be some misconception about how to view Quran. 3) The tombs were in fact built by Thamud as houses and the Nabateans simply inscribed them later. The Aad and the Thamud are two nations mentioned several times in the Quran. What the Prophet () and the Sahaba went through during Tabuk was overall the joint place of Thamud and Nabateans and more specifically the exact well from where the she-camel drank. What else do you have in mind 74], , And certainly did the companions of Thamud deny the messengers. It is argued that the Quran and the Prophet () made an error in history and facts[1]. [18], On the eve of the Rashidun Caliphate's conquest of the Levant, 634 AD, Syria's population mainly spoke Aramaic; Greek was the official language of administration. A temple they constructed at Rawwafa, 200 miles north of Medina, mentions the following in a Greek-Nabataean bilingual inscription: For the wellbeing of the rulers of the whole world . A number of them branched out, which later became independent tribes (sub-tribes). According to Arab tradition, the Adnanites are called Arabised because it is believed that Ishmael Spoke Aramaic and Egyptian then learnt Arabic from a Qahtanite Yemeni woman that he married. The Quran and quoted Hadiths indicate that the buildings of the Thamud were visible at the time of the Prophet () as signs to the Arabs. They are often discussed when Allah is directing our attention to people who disobeyed Him and were punished as a result. The prophet was a man of his times and of his own personal experiences, he could have attributed what he saw to the Thamud due to the fact that the Thamud lived on the exact region as these ruins. Good reply Adeel. This is the temple that was built by the tribal unit of Thamud, the leaders of their unit, so that it might be established by their hands and be their place of veneration for ever7. [22], A poem attributed to Umayya ibn Abi--alt, a Meccan contemporary of Muhammad who refused to accept Islam, contains a reference to the camel and Thamud. A Reminder of the Story of `Ad and Thamd By Ibn Kathir - Fri 14 Muharram 1425 (5 Mar 2004) 0 5604 Explanation: means, they were arrogant, stubborn and disobedient. They also earned income by transporting goods and people in caravans pulled by domesticated camels across the desert. Compared to modern civilizations of this time that we live in, these were still archaic and that is just sign of the times but compared to those who came after them in the lands, these destroyed civilizations were e definitely stronger. It is possible that multiple unrelated groups took on the name of Thamud; they probably spoke Old Arabic. Follow the great majority of Muslims today? The Christians are claiming that the Qurans statement about Thamud carving structures in the hills and mountains is demonstrably false as the structures are built not by the Thamud but by the Nabateans, who came much later. [28] A large Arab migration to Mesopotamia followed the Muslim conquest of Mesopotamia in 634, which saw an increase in the culture and ideals of the Bedouins in the region. 'Aad and Thamud are two of several communities described in the Quran as recipients of God's chosen prophets - and being utterly destroyed for rejecting them. 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