From 1857 onwards, the records are arranged in BT 98 by ships Official Number (ON). To locate crew lists for these years you will need to know the name of the ship on which an individual seaman sailed. By converting water tanks, an additional 1,000 tons of fuel, or about one day's comsumption, could be carried. During the turnround in New York on her second G.I. Shipwrecks and maritime incidents in 1947, Shipwrecks and maritime incidents in 1965, Shipwrecks and maritime incidents in 1972, RMS Queen Elizabeth from Victory to Valhalla. WebRMS Queen Mary: 80,774 GRT: 1936: Currently a Hotel ship 16 October 1946 (entered service) RMS Queen Elizabeth: 83,673 GRT: 314 m (1,031 ft) 1946 1972 (Destroyed by fire) Scrapped in 1974 (after sinking) 3 February 1962 (entered service) SS France (1962-1980) SS Norway (post-1980) 66,343 GRT(as built) 76,049 GRT (final size) Two of the ship's fire warning system brass plaques were recovered by a dredger, and were displayed at The Aberdeen Boat Club in Hong Kong in an exhibit about the ship. Flt.Lt. The offender turned out to be a retired rear-admiral with a D.S.O. Bdmn. So much for the cynics who, in the early days of the war, had prophesied that the Queens would lie uselessly alongside their safe pier in New York for the duration of the war! The NORMANDIE had one edge on the QUEEN MARY in being aesthetically more pleasing through her revolutionary streamlining and lack of visible deck 'clutter'. WebHMS Queen Elizabeth during the Second World War 1939-1945. There are usually several boxes of records for each port of registry, each box containing an alphabetical range of ships names. Just after midnight on 25th September 1967 the two, The QUEEN MARY found a buyerin the form of the City of Long Beach, California and she left Southampton on 31st October 1967 carrying 1,000 passengers on what was billed as 'The Last Great Cruise', involving a passage around Cape Horn. Towards the end of 1940 additional seamen arrived on board the QUEEN ELIZABETH, having travelled from Halifax, N.S. WW2 Service: Throughout World War II she served as a very valuable troopship, completing the long period of duty in March 1946. Click onBT 98to search by date and name of British port where the ship was registered. Captain Duncan Cameron, the Southampton pilot, was still on board. These agreements had to be filed within 24 hours of the ships return to a UK port. The following morning, 18th April 1947, she steamed into Southampton - fifty hours late ! Many of the QUEEN ELIZABETH's fittings had been placed ashore in New York, Sydney and Singapore when she was converted into a troopship and all these globally scattered items had to be returned to Southampton for refurbishment, assembly, sorting and fitting. During two years of near neglect, deterioration had rapidly set in, especially in the fragile boiler tubes. The records contain details of UK merchant seamen who served on the ships. When Cunard requested that the Americans send over an inspector to approve the improvement work as it progressed, the authorities declined. These earlier records were organised by port of registry and then alphabetically by name of ship (see the respective sections below for advice on finding earlier records). The following day, 8th October, four hundred guests of the Cunard Company boarded the QUEEN ELIZABETH for the return passage to Southampton. The QUEEN ELIZABETH was embedded in mud to a point just below the bridge. The QUEEN ELIZABETH was ready for her trials in early October and sailed for the Clyde on the sixth of the month. In January 1931 agreement was reached with the New York Port Authority for a thousand-foot long pier at a rent of 48,000 a year. Cunard was determined that the new ship would be based on the latest revolutionary developments that had taken place in naval architecture and marine engineering. Over 3,000 tons had to be pumped out eventually at a cost of 140,000 to Mr Tung. In 1951 the 'Queens' sailed from Southampton every 15 or 17 days, but the 1952 schedules show each liner sailing everyfourteen days, enabling fifteen round voyages to be made between May and October compared with just eleven in 1951. A minimal crew of four hundred were assigned for the trip; most were transferred from Aquitania and told that this would be a short coastal voyage to Southampton. In writing to Cammell Laird, Sir Percy said that he was not entirely confident that it could deal with such a large ship and that in particular they might not be able to move the ship into their fitting-out basin. The work, Cunard estimated, would cost 750,000. The charred remnants of her last ensign were cut from the flagpole and framed in 1972, and still adorn the wall of the officers' mess of marine police HQ in Hong Kong. The fewer crossings were due to the, At the Cunard Steamship Company's Annual General Meeting held on 28th May 1959, the Chairman Colonel Denis Bates speculated on how the world would be travelling in the future. On 25th November 1935 Sir Percy Bates wrote to Swan Hunter; Vickers Armstrong; John Brown and Cammell Laird advising them that, although his Board had not reached any final decision, they might decide to build a vessel to run alongside the QUEEN MARY. With flight time cut from twelve to less than seven hours, the lure was irresistible. and the QUEEN ELIZABETH together at New York on 10th March 1940. A form known as a Schedule C was completed by the master of every Foreign Going Ship, filed within 48 hours of the ships return to a UK port. For the first time in several years the QUEEN ELIZABETH began to show a profit. The two funnels were self-supporting and braced internally to give a cleaner-looking appearance. Be that as it may, John Thorneycroft's staff at Southampton were set a formidable task with the QUEEN ELIZABETH's overhaul in January 1953. in the late 1940s, are (left to right): Elizabeth Sayers, Margaret Morton. The RMS Queen Elizabeth was an ocean liner operated by Cunard Line. WebScenes on the main podium prior the launching, the two Princesses are notable, especially Princess Elizabeth , our future Queen! Breakfast was from 6.30am until 11.am; and dinner from 3.pm to 7.30pm. The forward Observation Bar on the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Cunard White Star Tourist Class, January 1949. To find a crew list and agreement from 1855 onwards, you will need to know the ships official number. Alternatively, browseBT 98/140-563to view all the ports covered for this period and the alphabetical ranges of ships for each port. The river was also widened in places, especially at Dalmuir where the QUEEN MARY had grounded for many anxious seconds as she proceeded to the Tail of the Bank. The vessel was sold to Queen Ltd of Port Everglades on 19 July 1969. The object of fitting the coil (one of the first to be so fitted) was hopefully to render the ship immune from magnetic mines by neutralising the ship's magnetic field. She would then have been remembered as the fine working ship that she undoubtedly was. After Esquimalt the QUEEN ELIZABETH sailed for San Francisco, and, on arrival, briefly ran aground near the Golden Gate Bridge. However, over the winter of 1967/68, Cunard received several serious enquiries from potential buyers. For the purpose of this list, they have been included as Cunard ships. For the purpose of this list, they have been included as Cunard ships. The QUEEN ELIZABETH berthed alongside the Ocean Terminal, at Southampton, taking on bunkers for her next voyage. The fewer crossings were due to the Elizabeth's extended overhaul during which stabilisers were fitted, and if she had made her usual 44 crossings then the results might have been very different. [16] During her war service as a troopship, Queen Elizabeth carried more than 750,000 troops, and she also sailed some 500,000 miles (800,000km).[9]. Queen Elizabeth launches the QUEEN ELIZABETH. 1951onwards Her propellers thrashed the shallow water into billowing clouds of yellow and black as sand and mud were churned up from the sea bed. Shuttle', her first such voyage leaving New York for the Clyde on 5th June 1942. [26] The vessel was sold at auction in 1970 to Hong Kong tycoon Tung Chao Yung.[9]. With the aid of two local tugs the liner finally put down two anchors some six miles off Oranjestad, Aruba. Sir Percy Bates said that he liked to think that the Queens had, by their troop carrying capacities, shortened the war by a whole year. The QUEEN ELIZABETH departing from the river of her birth, and her. In the early morning fog of 28th November 1968, the QUEEN ELIZABETH left Southampton for the last time. Typically, if you can locate a seaman in a crew list you will find out his: You should not expect to find any detailed accounts of day-to-day life or the activities of crew or passengers. The contract was signed on 6th October 1936 and the keel of ship number 552 was laid on 4th December. The QUEEN ELIZABETH approaching her berth at Pier 90 in the North River, at New York in the late 1940s. AB. Agreements for Home Trade Ships (Schedule B)These agreements covered coastal and fishing ships. [7], On the day RMS Queen Mary sailed on her maiden voyage, Cunard's chairman, Sir Percy Bates, informed his ship designers, headed by George Paterson, that it was time to start designing the planned second ship. She remained there until 11th March 1966 undergoing the 1.75 million refit and returned to Southampton with about 400 workmen on board who were completing the modernisation of cabins. THE CUNARD - WHITE STAR LINER 'QUEEN ELIZABETH'. The first, on 28th January in cabin main-deck 93, was extinguished by Southampton Fire Brigade and the second fire, just twenty-four hours later, was discovered in a C-deck cabin. The continuing popularity of the 'Queens' was shown by the fact that they carried 110,800 passengers between them in 1960. The first was New Zealand and the second was Nuku Hiva in the Marquesas Group of islands. Her propellers were removed and cleaned and the underwater hull cleaned and painted. Those crew members who, for family or other reasons, declined to sign the new articles were taken off the QUEEN ELIZABETH, sworn to secrecy and subsequently spent many hours, virtually interned, on board the Southampton tender ROMSEY in a nearby loch. The Australians also needed what was left of their depleted army for their country's own defence in case of Japanese invasion. Quadruple-screw, 31 knots. Rear Admiral Carruthers Joseph William. If oil were adopted as the best type of fuel, Cunard would always have to bear in mind the possibility of oil shortages, and back in 1926 it had been seriously suggested that the new ships might be generally arranged so that in the case of such an emergency arising it would be possible to convert them to coal burning. He said that it had become a source of irritation to him and his colleagues on the board. The QUEEN ELIZABETH at anchor in Sydney Harbour waiting. <<<<<< >>>>>>>. 10, RMS Queen Elizabeth, The Beautiful Lady. [10] Supposedly, the liner started to slide into the water before the Queen could officially launch her, and acting sharply, she managed to smash a bottle of Australian red over the liner's bow just before it slid out of reach. L.Sea. To a post-war Britain she was to become what the, The QUEEN ELIZABETH left Southampton on 30th March 1946 and arrived and anchored off Greenock the following day. A Court of Inquiry found that arson was the cause of the fires. The submarine dived and the captain identified the ship as the QUEEN ELIZABETH. The first hint of competition from the airlines came in October 1951 and this resulted in speeding up the turn-round of the 'Queens' in 1952. However another of the still operational boilers was badly damaged: she was now down to just three. Churchill, as First Lord of the Admiralty, expressed his fears for the safety of the QUEEN ELIZABETH and felt that she would fall victim to Nazi bombers in her exposed site at Clydebank. WebThe RMS Queen Elizabeth was an ocean liner operated by Cunard Line. the dock from her, on the north side of Pier 88, is the NORMANDIE. The QUEEN ELIZABETH was now equipped to carry 15,000 troops although the numbers were reduced to 12,000 in the winter months. Sir Basil Smallpiece said: "Although the QUEEN MARY's retirement at the end of 1967 had long been forecast, it had been hoped that the results of the QUEEN ELIZABETH's cruise programme last winter would confirm the viability of the Company's plan to keep her in service when the 'Q.4' [launched as the QUEEN ELIZABETH 2] comes along in 1969. On 27th May the Clydebank men were told they had the order. (The Singapore facility was no longer available). Bdmn. On 8th May 1967, the axe finally fell and it was announced that the QUEEN ELIZABETH would be withdrawn a year earlier than originally planned - in the Autumn of 1968 after a final summer on the Western Ocean. Alternatively, browseBT 98/564-4758to view all the ports covered for this period and the alphabetical ranges of ships for each port. The 'Queens' experienced many difficulties when navigating the Solent due to yacht manoeuvres. In May 1930, Cunard began to make tentative enquiries about the possibility of dry-docking facilities at Southampton for its two new superliners. At 11.15am the QUEEN ELIZABETH weighed anchor and was abeam the Cumbraes an hour later. And so, on 24th June 1945, the QUEEN ELIZABETH left Gourock with her first load of returning G.I.s. Rodaway Thomas. At 3.pm the liner commenced her northward run over the Arran measured mile and covered the course in 2 minutes 1.3 seconds which gave an average speed of 29.71 knots. Tung's great ship was reconditioned and converted into the ship of his dreams. These are not two separate documents but one and the same thing; you may see them referred to simply as crew lists, or sometimes simply as agreements. Note: Largest ship built to date. 534 was laid on 27th December 1930. Tung, the head of the Orient Overseas Line, intended to convert the vessel into a university for the World Campus Afloat program (later reformed and renamed as Semester at Sea). The QUEEN ELIZABETH at anchor off Nassau, Bahamas. The next largest category comprised business travel and if current medical opinion was correct there was a danger that modern airspeed had outstepped the capacity of man to adapt himself to its stress. On the bridge there was the faint sensation of a slight, lurching jolt which some on board never even felt. This would have been the OCEANIC, whose keel was laid at Harland & Wolff's yard in 1928. At a boat drill on 27th February the assembled crew were told of Churchill's order that the ship was to leave British waters. The Americans were characteristically amazed and within five days had removed the Australian hammocks and bunks, and in their place had fitted fold-down 'Standee' beds, made of tubular steel and easy to clean canvas webbing. On 8th September 1951 the QUEEN ELIZABETH left Southampton on her 100th round voyage to New York since she entered passenger service in October 1946. It occurred one day out of Ceylon and Dr Maguire remembered waking suddenly because the engines were slowing down. Shuttle crossing. However, because of the prestigious nature of the, On 14th April 1947 the QUEEN ELIZABETH was homeward bound and after leaving Cherbourg encountered thick fog in the Channel. ', The QUEEN ELIZABETH slips away from Southampton for the, last time in the early morning fog of 28th November 1968. It was controlled simply by the necessity to provide sufficient passenger accommodation and propulsion to operate a two-ship weekly express service across the North Atlantic. [11][9], Queen Elizabeth was built on slipway four at John Brown & Company in Clydebank, Scotland, Great Britain. In addition to the normal painting, scaling, underwater inspection, removal of propellers, drawing of tailshafts and so forth; 157 tourist-class cabins were given air-conditioning and provision was also made to carry more fuel. [6] She was moved to Port Everglades, Florida, and converted to a tourist attraction, which opened in February 1969. Four torpedoes were fired and the U-Boat followed their course. There was still thick fog in Southampton Water and the QUEEN ELIZABETH returned to Cowes Roads to anchor overnight. So it was clear that the ships must be fast, strongly built to face North Atlantic weather, and have a sufficient reserve of power to make up any time lost through bad weather. Her master, Captain Ford, had attempted to avert the incident by ordering 'half-astern' on the starboard engines, but it was too late. Neville Chamberlain, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, was convinced that faced with the growing competition from foreign liner companies there was not room for two big British companies acting in opposition to each other on the North Atlantic trade. [15] Queen Elizabeth zigzagged across the Atlantic to elude German U-boats and took six days to reach New York at an average speed of 26 knots. But the QUEEN ELIZABETH made only 38 crossings and yet carried 66,000 passengers, giving a average of 1,752. Early in the afternoon of 9th November a large, two-funnelled steamer was sighted, some six to seven miles away. The only signs of White Star which remained were the buff funnels of the BRITANNIC and the GEORGIC. The reason was the Chancellor of the Exchequer's apprehension at what might be asked of him by his critics when making the announcement of the order in the House, namely 'that this tender business was all a farce, and that the order was in Brown's pocket from the start. Although the QUEEN ELIZABETH could carry 2,200 passengers, the number would be limited to about 1,200 whilst cruising. WebRMS Queen Elizabeth History Pages. The new ship weighed her bower anchor half an hour later and with a mean draught of 37 feet 9 inches slipped through the anti-submarine boom that stretched across the Clyde between the Gantock Rocks and the Cloch Lighthouse at 8.15am. Mr C.Y. The tender ROMSEY which had brought the officials out to the stricken ship made a solo attempt at pulling the liner off the mud, but the towline parted under the unequal strain. The SEAWISE UNIVERSITY (ex QUEEN ELIZABETH). Each piece in this series covers a number of ships and therefore appears in our catalogue as a range of numbers. The 'Cassandra' column in the 'Daily Mirror' on 29th November 1961 was uncharacteristically enthusiastic about the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Chesney Henry. A few muster rolls survive in other record series. In late 1968, Queen Elizabeth was sold to the Elizabeth Corporation, with 15% of the company controlled by a group of Philadelphia businessmen and 85% retained by Cunard. Eventually both the House of Commons and the House of Lords voted and the Bill was passed on 27th March 1934. After several crossings with Joey on board, the crew began to grumble that the weather seemed to have taken a turn for the worse. The liner is equipped with two sets of stabilizers. The QUEEN ELIZABETH at anchor at the Tail of the Bank in the Firth, of Clyde as John Brown's workmen transform her from a troopship. RMS Carpathia - History, Accommodations, & Ephemera Collection. This should be seen in the context of the QUEEN MARY's record of 31.69 knots when she took the Blue Riband of the Atlantic in September 1938. At around this time the Queen's microphone failed but with great presence of mind, Her Majesty quietly and almost unheard by those around her said: British Pathe The Queen launches the QUEEN ELIZABETH 1938. The liner did not now have enough power to manoeuvre, should the need arise, but she did have enough momentum - plus the aid of tugs - to carry her through the harbour entrance. REINA DEL PACIFICO PACIFIC STEAM NAVIGATION. Queen Elizabeth and Queen Mary were used as troop transports during the Second World War. Shuttle' the two. The experiment lasted three voyages before the bandits were given a dishonourable discharge. David Bowes-Lyon, had recently been appointed to the Board of Cunard and had arranged for Sir Oswald Birley to paint the portrait which was hung in the first-class main lounge. WebThe National Records of Scotland holds agreements and crew lists under the reference BT 3, covering 1867-1913, for Scottish ships only. The Japanese wanted her for a marine science museum in time for the 1970 Tokyo World Fair. Built at the famed John Brown Shipyard in Clydebank, Queen Elizabeth was the largest passenger ship ever constructed, a title she held from her launch until 1996 when finally eclipsed After 1861 only a sample of crew lists and agreements and log books are held at The National Archives. Sir Percy Bates had wisely waited for anticipated developments in boiler design to occur. The lady then tied her yacht up to a buoy (a forbidden practice carrying a heavy fine), and two days later Southampton Harbour Board received a letter from the lady alleging her yacht had been 'interfered with' by the QUEEN ELIZABETH. The salvage tug RESCUE arrived on 16th February as the SEAWISE UNIVERSITY continued her southward drift through the Windward Passage into the Caribbean. This had been included on the Mary to spend the force of any heavy sea that might break over the bow before the water could damage the superstructure. For a short time the Queen Elizabeth, now under the command of Commodore Geoffrey Trippleton Marr attempted a dual role in order to become more profitable; when not plying her usual transatlantic route, which she now alternated in her sailings with the French Line's SS France, the ship cruised between New York and Nassau. The distance to be covered in a year would be about 145,000 nautical miles. In the centre, on the south side of Pier 90, is the QUEEN MARY, and across. The purpose of the visit was to enable Queen Elizabeth to present the ship with her personal standard, to be framed and hung in the first-class restaurant. During almost two decades following the end of the Second World War, young men in Britain were 'called up' for two years of National Service in the armed forces. The rest, up to 1989, have been destroyed. This meant that the crew had to re-sign on foreign-going Articles. Promenade deck 724 feet long. WebLists can also include passengers who were family members of seamen. [15], Queen Elizabeth left the port of New York on 13 November 1940 for Singapore to receive her troopship conversion. after a visit to the Liverpool Cruise Terminal. Of all the arguments used in the United States to support the demand for subsidies for American merchant shipping, none has been advanced with greater potency than that America had to rely on foreign ships in the Second World War, and could not afford to do so again. Following his retirement, Sir James was in great demand as a lecturer and one day was telling some schoolchildren of the days when 2,000 lbs of bacon and 32,000 eggs were cooked for breakfast every day. He went on deck and saw three great ships - the two 'Queens' and the ILE DE FRANCE stationary. Following the tradition of the Orient Overseas Line, the ship was renamed Seawise University,[9] as a play on Tung's initials (C.Y.'s). The QUEEN ELIZABETH had a heavily raked bow. An unplanned lengthy mid-voyage stopover allowed the new owners to fly spare parts out to the ship and carry out repairs before resuming the course to Hong Kong Harbour, where she arrived in July 1971. Cunard had warned the new buyers against carrying passengers and would have nothing to do with the bookings, but nevertheless carried the blame in the eyes of the disgruntled passengers. Paul earned a Masters of Archival Studies - a terminal degree from Clayton State University in Georgia, where he studied under renowned archivist Richard Pearce-Moses. Muster rolls for this period did not usually record the names of the whole crew but did provide: However, some lists, appearing randomly during this period, also show: There would have been calculation tables but none of these are thought to survive. In an lighter vein, it should not be forgotten that it was a G.I. On 16th May 1966, just six weeks after completing her overhaul on the Clyde, the QUEEN ELIZABETH became the first major casualty of the strike and was laid up at Southampton. The work would include the installation of full air conditioning, the fitting of private showers and toilets in much of the cabin class and tourist class accommodation, and the creation of a lido at the after end of the promenade deck, incorporating an outdoor heated swimming pool. On Thursday 10th December 1931, the Directors of the Cunard Steamship Company gathered to look at the provisional figures for the year's trading For the first time for very many years the Company had not made a profit. This argument was buttressed by the statement that the British Government charged the United States for transporting American troops in the QUEEN MARY and the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Sir Basil Smallpiece (Cunard's chairman since November 1965 when he succeeded Sir John Brocklebank) decided that the time had finally come for drastic, long-delayed surgery on the Cunard passenger fleet. Many do not survive at all whilst significant proportions of those that do survive are held at other archives, most notably: The National Archives holds the following proportions of surviving crew lists and agreements after 1861: Local archives took some of the records for the period 1863-1913 (see section 12). During a conference on board, the U.S. military was told how many men had been transported on each Sydney - Suez voyage. Eight days later the 'slow boat to China' arrived at Hong Kong. The work, Cunard estimated, would cost 750,000. Others speculated that the fires were the result of a conflict between Tung, a Chinese Nationalist, and Communist-dominated ship construction unions. Promptly at 2.pm the liner pulled away from the quayside. 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